Value of C. G. Jung's work

[Dee]

In an attempt to better understand myself and try to get in better touch with my non physical parts I have wandered into the realm of dream work and shadow work in the method of C.G.Jung. I have heard and read from others that the border between sleep and waking is where certain skills and cognition can occur.

There is a lot of talk of divine this and that. I mostly believe the subconscious and and all the divine nonsense is likely 'simply' our other half. Hence the notion of asking the subconscious to send new information in the form of symbols and dreams. I would like to try this as I never really remember my dreams and enjoy the notion of being better in touch with 'myself' and how that could even be used as a guide for better understanding ourselves and the world around us.

Simply the method will be to do a little breathing exercises to calm and then to ask my subconscious/admin/otherself to send me what info need or to help me understand. I will record my dreams in a journal by my bed side. I almost never remember my dreams otherwise. And to use the teachings and methods set out by Jung in "Man and his Symbols", and I also have access to a trained practitioner to help give their perspective on interpretation.

I suppose this is along winded post to see if anyone else has any experience with this or other similar modalities or perhaps I am wasting time on polluted dark infected notions?

If I have any success I will post an update.
Thank You.

[Straix]

Not long before discovering the forum I have looked into Silva's method of mind control. This is the same what you are talking about just much more expanded, a system if you will. I red the book, did the exercises, nothing worked. I did go to a course of 1 day to properly get trained by a person. Nothing worked, not a single thing. Looking back it is clear that it only worked for those with contracts for it to work, only certain darks. The things spoken of in the book and by people were too good to be true for it to work for me :D

Then again. I've comes across some works from Jung. Depending on how much of a mind independence you have there is knowledge to be gained and used. It can be obtained elsewhere too, nothing irreplaceable I didn't find.

[Anton]

Alliance members don't have normal "dreams". All is in some way a translation of cognitions from other places.
I wouldn't expect this method to work.
E.g. when we evacuated habitats from the property, I didn't have dreams for months,
because there was no place left to have them in, until we found new habitats where work was needed, then dreams resumed.

[Dee]

***UPDATE***

So ... I have had some wild experiences over the last couple weeks or so. I am willing to share my experiences here. It will involve some longer posts that will include some intimate details of happenings in my personal life by necessity.

** DISCLAIMER **

I do not profess to be any kind of expert in any way of any thing. I am going to need to expose vulnerable details about my life to share this but I want others to benefit in some way if it turns out that I can benefit from this journey. If anyone disrespects this process I may be forced to remove my posts and stop sharing any more of my experiences. However, I welcome outside perspective, criticism or differing opinions for the sake of growth learning and expression.

Also I am only using Jungs work as a framework and I am not in any way saying that I align entirely with all the content of his life's work or how it represents itself. I don't want o get too hung up on specific words and definitions of such. I tend to lean more toward information here than the definition provided by Jung though I can see how there may be similarities.

Thanks to everyone who has or will take any time to read or post in this thread.
Next post will contain the experiences I like to think of as cognitions or some kind of communication through 'dreams' with my admin/unconscious.

[Dee]

Here we go. Be me. Since approximately September where my last 'job' has been to build a bathroom and kitchen and to insulate and modernize the electrical and lighting in a basement apartment in service of a good friend and 'in-law' so that they may combine living spaces with their mother. I did this for a very modest fee so they could all significantly benefit from combining their households out of necessity. Their mom requires assistance to maintain her home since the loss of her husband and the friends in question will finally be in a stable financial situation and be able to retain a significant amount of the sale of their old home as a result. I take pride in my work and produced high end results for minimal cost. Everyone wins.

Very shortly afterwards my relationship of ~10 years came to an end. I have needed to relocate 800kms back to my home town where I have been living out of my childhood bedroom, jobless, with a recent certification in real estate in a crashing/crashed Canadian housing market, feeling completely lost, like I have failed in every way a man can fail and having been taken advantage of after years of investment.

Part of my personal journey to try and find some kind of guidance and direction as to what to do has indirectly brought me to the topic of trying to figure out my forgotten trauma or maybe some kind of guidance through dream work inspired by some concepts from C. G. Jung's Man and his Symbols. I have found a practitioner to assist and provide a trained opinion. I take this with a grain of salt as I have learned to do with everything. Read my posts about not being able to trust your own thoughts and feelings and beliefs. Much less other people.

In the past I have rarely remembered my dreams with a couple of exceptions at least one of which I have posted here about and it turned out to be cognition. Before bed I will calm myself and ask admin/unconscious to send me what I need. For several initial weeks I had very little success in recalling any dreams. Despite having the notepad waiting and ready.

Around Feb 3rd I had my first vivid dream. It was of a woman wearing a golden monk like robe. Her 'aura' also shining gold. The dance was beautiful and graceful. The whole thing felt very ceremonial, like something special, with warm tones filling the backdrop like a warm fire. At no point could I make out her face, just flowing brown hair and the fluid motion of her and the robes motions.

My Interpretation:
Later I consulted my analyst and they suggested this to be an archetypal dream and the veiled woman a symbol. My feeling is that this is about accurate, a representation of the Greek Sophia. Representing wisdom, recompense, change, a new voyage. See here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_(tarot_card)

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Next around Feb 5th I had another dream. In this dream I found myself in a house that carried a very strong feeling of familiarity. I had been here before. At this house was a woman who resembled a person I briefly knew in real life. A mother, a person whom I know carries suffering and denial. In this house I know I have done 'work' before. I have returned in order to finish something I had started. The woman had previously pushed back on proper compensation but after a conversation I managed to convince her that the real cost of such repairs was much higher than I had ever charged or been paid and would still be lower than what I would charge, knowing she needs help. It took me some clever investigation in order to find the source of the problem, it was represented as a wire that had been damaged, it could never be repaired as is, it had to be replaced. The feeling I had is that the fix/method would be tricky and I did not know how or could not have done it in the past when I started this work, but that it is something I knew how and could accomplish now. That by replacing it I am now able to be compensated properly. The woman is very happy with the result and I am thanked and feel grateful.

My Interpretation:
First, this house and the woman within are from the region I lived in and the time of my life where I had dreams of learning to flip real estate with the aim of growing gradually in financial success until one day I could be financially free and able to begin to help and support those around me in need, including this forum and team. It took me 3 years of self sacrifice working a full time job and putting in full time hours after work to learn all the trades and do all the work and finally produce a product that sold. I did not buy myself ANYTHING in this period and went against the negativity of nearly every single person around me. I found success but not long after the acquisition of my next property the real estate market and conditions within my country shifted. The next project had every conceivable setback, but i conquered them, the market shifted and I could not get the right sell price. I worked around it all and went on to do other houses but at every turn the market conditions seemed to have shifted at the exact times to stifle or delay my projects. Like the universe wouldn't let me. I have pursued other business ventures along the way with the same desired outcome and similarly seem to always have powers and situations beyond my control that prevent or make it difficult to find maximum success.

This is all relevant.

The woman in the dream likely represents my aenema, the female aspect of my male self and the emotional pain and sufferance and repressed difficulties of all my struggles with not being able to reach my dreams or find proper success. The house and time period coincides with the beginning of these goals and dreams. The work I had stared and was unable to or did not know how, is my crazy house flipping and other business ventures over the years trying to break free from money slavery and desire to support and build community for the lights and change for good. The tricky wire replacement represents new skill sets I am trying to develop in order to find freedom even personal at this point though I still dream of being able to give generously to those who need a hand up. And the contentment of my aenema represents the success and rewards, emotional and maybe financial, that will come with application of the right new method or connection.

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The night of Friday Feb 13th

I did not come to this conclusion initially or even after consulting my analyst. There were other parts of my life where I might need a new connection or way, like my relationship and others. I kind of came to this conclusion several days later while discussing my experiences with a friend and while practising new skills. I had a moment of knowingness that I have described in a previous post. In the exact moment of my feeling and as I typed exactly that in a message and sent to this person, my senior mother who was simply sitting in the same room with me began to aggressively cough. She experienced a strong coughing fit and described her chest being on fire and being very painful, it took minutes before the urge to cough finally passed. When she finally cleared up she told me she felt like she 'lost time' and in moments degraded to not recognizing things she had out and was using earlier, and was alarmed by the left overs we just minutes before were preparing to put away. Her confusion quickly descended to her cyclically asking the same questions over and over. I rushed her to the hospital. Conducted every test. Long story short she was cleared of it being a stroke. The Dr on duty insisted on ruling out encephalitis, which I knew by her symptom trajectory was highly unlikely, symptom onset was too sudden and lacked other characteristics needed. This Dr INSISTED she do a spinal tap and my sister pushed as well with the ideology that if we didn't do it and it was the case we would end up sorry. So I agreed hesitantly. The procedure did not go smoothly. During the procedure I was upset. I closed my eyes and ordered manual control and override. I don't know if she even qualifies and in the moment I did not care. I ordered to lay hands and to pour water. Visualized it aggressively. To heal real time. To intervene. That I was Dee and darkness cannot and will not be within my presence. My feelings were intense. I had a brief visual of reaching over and peeling back an awful black multi-limbed insect like creature from my mother and slicing it open. I returned to the water and pouring. Soon enough the procedure was over and I calmed down. My mother was transferred to the ICU for observation. Once she was finally asleep I left for home to try and get short sleep and be back early in the morning to direct her care.

My mother started to give coherent response after the 5th or 6th hour right before or as the procedure was to take place. And she regained her working memory by morning. I take zero credit for any kind of restoration of her memory, after the tests ruled out a stroke, pulmonary embolism or heart attack, I fully already knew and believed she had suffered oxygen restriction to her brain due to the attack and she was experiencing transient amnesia. Which started to clear in the way one would expect, hence I did not want to do the unnecessary CSF test.

This is still relevant.

When I got home I asked admin/unconscious to send me what I needed to know. I got home and got to sleep a few minutes after 3AM.

Now I will admit that despite my long time loyalty and full support of the Alliance, I have definitely have my own moments of doubt. Maybe I am crazy? Maybe this is all crazy? Maybe I just imagine the few visuals or cognition I have experienced? Maybe I just want to believe something or someone can make a change to this insane and evil world? I am human. I am flawed. How could any of it be real? How could any of it be proven?

Feb 14th during the afternoon once I finally got my mom home and away from the depleting and slightly damaging constant tests. Updating the several members of my family and few friends. I received a call from my now ex. She told me that she had the most vivid dream last night. In this dream my mother was laying in a bed in a house and there was another woman. Outside she could hear rain. Then the ceiling of the building came crashing down on the woman and my mother and water poured in with a terrible deafening crash. This was followed by fierce lighting and terrifying thunder. It was so vivid and frightening that she woke up violently. The time, shortly after 3AM. The time being the only reason she says she did not call me immediately because of how shocking it was.

So now. Now I feel a new way about the power of my admin. About how real our skills may be. My mind has been 'blown' a bit. There is no way she could have the slightest idea of what I did nor that there was a Dr in the room who was a woman. These 'dreams', am I finally in some kind of symbolic cognition or communication with myself? My mother attacked in the moment I have a knowingness?

I have had a couple other unrelated dreams in between my last session with my analyst and these experiences. But they are likely unrelated. But I feel more strongly about this series of events... I may be being manipulated. Or maybe I am the one manipulating? All this has come since the day of having a feeling of knowing something weeks ago. Before any of this work that started as a search for direction or to understand my own trauma to try and heal and be a better person.

If you made it all the way to the end here, congratulations. And thank you for bothering to care.
Take it for the nothing I know for certain. But if we can finally clearly connect with ourselves? Things are changing.

[Anton]

Very interesting experiences, thank you for sharing.
I'm getting the impression that by your own thoughts and feelings you already grew much more from these experiences than by applying the Jung method you mentioned.
Now that you mention it, from my experience, if you ask Admin for more dreams, you do get more dreams.
Since I am relatively sure that our dreams, including the ones you described, are cognitions of something happening elsewhere,
I don't necessarily see the point of trying to interpret them as some kind of metaphor. Even if you come to some kind of conclusion of what represents what,
I feel like there isn't really anything to gain from it.
That being said, I can't stop you from doing it ofc.
Also that being said, here comes some interpretation from me... since you were talking about a wire replacement,
that's probably exactly what you were working on. Maybe it was related to some kind of technology,
or maybe you actually found some kind of broken connection of someone who is incarnated.
The discussing woman was maybe preventing the repair... e.g., something comparable, we had cases where we had to negotiate with some beings to evacuate them,
since they were in the way of fixing things in 3D and they didn't understand the situation they put themselves in.

It's kind of amusing to hear that what you imagined as flowing water looked like a crashing flood to someone else (if that is what they saw).
I have to admit though, the description of your experience leaves me with some doubts as well.
Logically I would say it looks like you helped your mother through it and there even was someone to witness it energetically, in a way.
How do you feel about this? From my experience, "interfering" energetically in 3D is a constant tug of war once you get into it.
One piece shifts and another falls into place, retaliation etc. usually striking within a timespan of around 2 weeks (or for the whole duration of 2 weeks).
This has possibly gotten better in the last few months for me.
If I had to guess, you are not even necessarily more in tune with cognitions or admin etc..
It's just that an urgent situation brought out what was already there, you acted and consequences followed.
It is possible of course that recent cleanings or unblockings helped smooth things out.

[Dee]

Hello Anton!

Thank you for your reply.

Very interesting experiences, thank you for sharing.
I'm getting the impression that by your own thoughts and feelings you already grew much more from these experiences than by applying the Jung method you mentioned.

Thank you. I am actively trying.

Now that you mention it, from my experience, if you ask Admin for more dreams, you do get more dreams.
Since I am relatively sure that our dreams, including the ones you described, are cognitions of something happening elsewhere,

This is also a kind of reassuring for me. I would be very pleased to know I can ask for guidance from admin (I wish I knew his name) and that I could trust the feedback I get, or better yet find it useful.

I don't necessarily see the point of trying to interpret them as some kind of metaphor. Even if you come to some kind of conclusion of what represents what,
I feel like there isn't really anything to gain from it.

This may be the only line I will respectfully disagree with. I most definitely do not have any line of communication or feedback clearly enough to be conversational in nature. And right now there could be much to gain from new perspective. As I am sure others reading this would maybe like to be able to have a guide for their own lives or to learn to trust their instincts. Or maybe one day we will have literal 3D mission to do. Hopefully cognition will be clearer and more obvious by then, but I have zero idea. I do agree that perhaps looking too loosely into the images might lead me to an incorrect assessment. Being more literal might have value. I appreciate this feedback and will definitely consider it in how I interpret any future cognition. I have not been given any more new dreams in several days now. However, from the opposing side, I find this also a silly notion, if everyone in the alliance had chosen not to take actions in life based off information given via cognition, would we even be aware of, much less actively fighting a war?

That being said, I can't stop you from doing it ofc. o
Also that being said, here comes some interpretation from me... since you were talking about a wire replacement,
that's probably exactly what you were working on. Maybe it was related to some kind of technology,
or maybe you actually found some kind of broken connection of someone who is incarnated.
The discussing woman was maybe preventing the repair... e.g., something comparable, we had cases where we had to negotiate with some beings to evacuate them,
since they were in the way of fixing things in 3D and they didn't understand the situation they put themselves in.

This is very interesting information and perspective, thank you. Maybe I did indeed help or fix or perhaps enact some kind of scenario very much like you described. I will try to consider a more literal interpretation for future 'dreams'. In this particular case, I had asked admin specifically for guidance as to what to do with my life situations and so I tried to apply the cognition to aspects of my life that fit while trying to keep in mind that the new information likely represents something my conscious mind does not already know.

It's kind of amusing to hear that what you imagined as flowing water looked like a crashing flood to someone else (if that is what they saw).
I have to admit though, the description of your experience leaves me with some doubts as well.
Logically I would say it looks like you helped your mother through it and there even was someone to witness it energetically, in a way.
How do you feel about this? From my experience, "interfering" energetically in 3D is a constant tug of war once you get into it.
One piece shifts and another falls into place, retaliation etc. usually striking within a timespan of around 2 weeks (or for the whole duration of 2 weeks).
This has possibly gotten better in the last few months for me.
If I had to guess, you are not even necessarily more in tune with cognitions or admin etc..
It's just that an urgent situation brought out what was already there, you acted and consequences followed.
It is possible of course that recent cleanings or unblockings helped smooth things out.

Honestly , the intensity of the water and the storm probably reflect how intensely upset and how strongly I pushed. I was very upset. I knew the test was potentially impactful and was very likely unnecessary, the Dr kind of insisted then did a poor job. She had to do it twice, then removed far more fluid than necessary... I was upset and I definitely 'pushed' quite hard with my intention of intervention. It's definitely possible it was a witness. I am not sure this witness is on the 'right side' so perhaps the theme of terror and fright is because of witnessing that we may have real power? Again I also am going to give their 'dream' a little leeway for being not quite a literal representation and maybe a bit of emotional overlay tied into the image.

I do somewhat understand also that the unrelenting machine like behaviours of the darks will more than likely just try to find a new way or to retaliate or whatever. You can even see it in 3D. But I don't care and I can handle it. We will never stop. Bring it on.

I like the idea that we have some of these 'skills' or 'abilities' already and that as things progress things will smooth out and improve. Maybe I just hadn't asked before? Maybe it was fuzzier or not possible or as good or reliable in the past?

Thank you again for your response. Appreciation and respect.
Be Well