Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - TTIP

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Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - TTIP

Unread postby canjos » 25 Feb 2016 10:12

Hi :greetings-wavingyellow:

I am curious about the TTIP.

For those who dont know, this is a trade agreement that is being negotiated between the US and european corporations.

Is this agreement positive for us (the citizens generally speaking)? Which dark factions are envolved in this deal?


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Re: Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - TTIP

Unread postby canjos » 25 Feb 2016 10:15

I believe I just answered my own question... If there are any dark side envolved then for sure it is not positive for us. :doh:

Let me reformulate: Will this agreement be even more harmful for us compared with the present situation?
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Re: Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - TTIP

Unread postby Δύναμις » 25 Feb 2016 10:31

canjos wrote:Let me reformulate: Will this agreement be even more harmful for us compared with the present situation?


100% YES

It will steal our last cents and forward them to the bosses of the big companies.
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Re: Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - TTIP

Unread postby canjos » 25 Feb 2016 10:54

That was my suspicion... but I confess that I had some tiny hoppe that this agreement could improve the competition between companies and for this reason would be positive for the consumers.

In the end if it was a good deal it would be open and transparent and not secretive as it is right? :think:
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Re: Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - TTIP

Unread postby Δύναμις » 25 Feb 2016 15:13

canjos wrote: I had some tiny hoppe that this agreement could improve the competition between companies and for this reason would be positive for the consumers.


The "competition" between companies is a made up situation and in meanwhile a huge lie. The competition NEVER EVER improved things for the consumers. Smaller companies that become a threat for bigger ones, are forced to fuse with the bigger ones or get eliminated in other ways. The big sharks won't give up before they haven't eaten away every tiny fish. No matter what happens, they keep increasing their company's profits and also by dismissing workers. They increase poverty in order to increase profits. This is what they have been doing for a few decades now. Why should TTIP work differently?
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Re: Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - TTIP

Unread postby Frank » 25 Feb 2016 15:22

TTIP is a main brick from the dark lsa bastards, to increase the enslavement. It takes away the last snippets of democracy and finishes the constitutional states in Europe. In fact even a mayor in a small city or village can no more act free with TTIP.
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Re: Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - TTIP

Unread postby canjos » 25 Feb 2016 16:48

Δύναμις wrote: The competition NEVER EVER improved things for the consumers.


But there is a direct relationship between economic freedom and prosperity right?

The Heritage foundation releases every year a report and a ranking which measures the economic freedom of each country. These are some of the key facts of the latest report:

“It is notable that nations that have focused on improving their competitiveness and opening their societies to new ideas, products, and innovations have done a much better job of achieving the high levels of social progress that their citizens demand. It is not massive redistributions of wealth or government dictates on income levels that produce the most positive social outcomes. Instead, mobility and progress require lower barriers to entry, freedom to engage with the world, and less government control.”


“Nations with higher degrees of economic freedom prosper because they capitalize more fully on the ability of the free-market system to generate and reinforce dynamic growth through efficient resource allocation, value creation, and innovation.”


“In addition to enjoying higher levels of prosperity, people in economically free societies live longer. They have better health. They are able to be better stewards of the environment, and they push forward the frontiers of human achievement in science and technology through innovation.”


In my opinion the big corporations dont represent the true capitalism. What we have nowadays is a "crony" capitalism where these big corporations have the power to influence governments for their own benefit.
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Re: Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - TTIP

Unread postby canjos » 25 Feb 2016 16:51

Frank wrote:TTIP is a main brick from the dark lsa bastards, to increase the enslavement. It takes away the last snippets of democracy and finishes the constitutional states in Europe. In fact even a mayor in a small city or village can no more act free with TTIP.


Thats really bad news :(

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